~*~buttercream dreams~*~: Angry bitch coming through.
sergeantbitchtits:
mikkynga:
melanquolia:
Somebody commented on a Veronica/M!Courier prompt with something along the lines of,
“You know she wanted to ride him like a pony.”
Uh. Pardon?
Now, if there’s something I don’t particularly agree with on kinkmemes anywhere, I can (usually) turn a blind eye, but given that…
woa…
i just want to say
so it’s ok turn gay some characters it’s ok but turn them straight it’s bad?
^^^
come on a lot of you have no problem with boone suddenly turning gay and sticking his pene up the courier’s bum for convenience but the minute it’s the other way around OH NO
DISCLAIMER: This whole discussion/fill affects things about me personally, so I am likely to a) repeat myself, b) ramble, c) be really flippin angry through all of this. Please be warned ahead of time that I don’t take this subject lightly. I will also probably be going back in and editing, but whatever.
That said …Are you guys serious? Like actually serious?
Did you even bother to read the context? At all? Or the fill itself?
Furthermore: do you have any earthly idea what the ‘dick a lesbian straight’ thing has done over the years? Are you even remotely aware of the fact that lesbians by and large have to fight tooth and nail for their preference to be accepted as more than a passing phase, even more so than most? That even when they are portrayed in regular media, they’re still subjecting to straightwashing, whereas even most gay male characters are not?
Let me make this painfully clear: the fill in question was an insidious slop pile of tropes, spanning from ‘you can’t get from a lesbian relationship what you can get from a straight one’ to ‘women are too dumb to masturbate.’ Look, I don’t normally bother to go out of my way to bash on what pops up on the kmeme. I’ll state what I don’t particularly like in pairings and motifs, but I have never outright attacked a single fill. You wanna comb through my entire tumblr to find an entry of that nature? You’ll come away finding that it never happens.
In this case, I’m making an exception.
Why, you ask? Why not just go with the flow, ride it out?
Well, let’s start with this: Fill title happily implies that you’re not a real woman ‘til you’ve had a dick in you.
Fill content just makes it worse. Nothing else on the meme has made me as angry as this fill has. Like legitimately, outright, spitting fire angry, and personally offended, besides. I was in a three-year relationship with another woman that I count as pretty fucking legitimate, and this piece of shit comes along and reminds me that there’s a ton of people out there who think it was a worthless passing phase. I’m goddamn tired of seeing that, and it’s clear some of you have no idea how dehumanizing that can feel.
So yeah, I’m gonna get upset “over a video game.” I’m going to get upset “over a stupid fanfiction.”
Let’s run through the egregious errors AGAIN, though, shall we? This fill is written by an epic doucheweasel; it’s a screed that reads like it’s written by a guy who only wishes he could seduce a lesbian, and get her to realize everything she’s been missing by denying the power of a wang. It implies that she’s not capable of having a healthy sex life on account of who/what she is. I mean, sure, obviously, a woman with another woman is incapable of figuring out how to perform oral sex, or kiss, or god knows what else. Also, apparently at age 28, Veronica has no idea how to masturbate to orgasm, and needs a man to show her how it’s done. We need the power of cock to rectify this, stat.
Fuck this fill. In the bad way.
Women have been subjected to extreme sexual violence because of this kind of mindset. You should be aware of that. Never mind the fact that their lives, their loves, their everything romantic is pretty much undermined to the umpteenth degree.
So really, hijacking the conversation to do the ‘lets all hold hands and love all ships’ song and dance on this one is not going to wash. You’re missing the point, when there is a point to be made. The fact that it was used as a platform to talk about how every batshit crazy ship is okay is just shy of infuriating. I don’t fucking care about batshit crazy ships. I’m more than happy to discuss it in any other forum, or, hell, even say: go ahead and ship whatever the hell you want. But when a fill like this pops up, guess what? It’s going to get coverage. What comes out of creative fiction, and in all forums of life, *matters*. Saying it doesn’t is people giving themselves a license to shrug off any and all offensive mistakes, and that’s all it does.
This is a bigger problem than ‘just a story,’ or ‘just a video game.’ This is reinforcement of an absolutely toxic trope, and whenever it comes up, it’s been one that’s gotten shrugged off more often than not. You want us to shut the fuck up about it and have a feel-good session? Then how about you stick up for lesbian relationships as often as you do for gay male relationships. ‘Cause, you know, hey, if the problem goes away, we have nothing to complain about. If the toxic environment ceases to be, women who’ve dealt with this might not be instantly sickened by seeing this sort of playtime-adventure pop up.
But I’d still be absolutely grossed out by the way in which it was presented, and ONCE AGAIN: ignoring that to have a broader discussion is hijacking the original intent, missing the point egregiously, and being disingenuous. It also makes the respondents seem a lot more self-conscious about their own creative preferences than need be. This is not necessary. Please take that discussion elsewhere.
And, seriously, don’t tl;dr. That’s bullshit. Don’t pretend this is a conversation about the conventions of ‘oh so it’s okay to do (this) but it’s not okay to do (this) now?’ This is a conversation about something specific, something that made my guts do flip flops. All in all, I’m cool with live and let live. In this instance, I am not.
Let’s make this clear, one more time:
This has nothing to do with the kinkmeme as a whole.
This is not a conversation about IC/not-IC.
This is not a conversation about pairings or their legitimacy.
This is a conversation about a genuinely hurtful, and COMMON belief that exists surrounding lesbians in fiction.
Are we clear now?
Let me love you.